Jul 26, 2007

Resources for obtaining the Tridentine Mass

If you want to find resources about the Tridentine Mass (illustrated above), click on this post's title to go to the website of Una Voce (which means, "one voice").

There you will find, under "resources and support," the "Lumen Gentleman" page where you can add your name to those of a bunch of lovers of the Tridentine Mass.

In numbers there is strength, after all, and it might well be that everyone in each parish will need all the allies they can get in order to obtain the Tridentine Mass the Pope has promised us.

Father Zuhlsdorf quotes Bishop Steib of Memphis as writing that "substantial numbers" of the faithful are required before any request for the Tridentine Mass will be honored.

Earth to Bishop, Earth to Bishop: The Pope never said that!!!

Father Z. also quotes Bishop Steib as writing that his diocese is already doing what the Pope wants -- by allowing the Tridentine Mass in just two places!

As ole Q has said, and taken heat for, the roadblocks are on the way here in the USA.


Blogger John D. Enright said...

Too bad for the Bishop of Memphis. Its not up to him to decide the issue. Its up to individual priests for "private" Masses, and local pastors for "public" Masses.

2:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have written both to my pastor and to a priest about 40 miles from here who I happen to know loves Latin. I have no expectations from my pastor but I know that the other priest is getting requests from all over.

WRITE YOUR PASTOR! Then he cannot say 'No one has asked". Encourage others to do so as well. I may be the only'nut' to do this but the pastor cannot say that 'no one' has asked this way.

7:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think many pastors will experience difficulties acceding to requests for the Mass according to 1962 Roman Missal. Look at the potential roadblocks:

Who is competent to celebrate the "Tridentine" Mass...certainly not enough priests for every parish where a stable group might make a request.

How can a pastor justify scheduling a "Tridentine" Mass for a relatively few parishioners at a time when the more pressing need is to accommodate a much larger number of parishioners accustomed to and who desire Mass in the vernacular?

Who will take care of all the details necessary to celebrate the "Tridentine" Mass properly—training the servers, forming the choir, leading the choir, etc?

If pastors find themselves saying, "I'm sorry but we can't accommodate the wishes of those desiring the 1962 usage," it is far more likely to be because of such practical matters rather than any ideological cause.

10:43 AM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear John,

You are so right.

Maybe the individual priests will play a big role in restoring the Tridentine Mass. Maybe the private Masses these priests offer will become well attended.

5:03 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Anonymous 7:50 a.m.,

Good for you, for writing your pastor and another priest.

One thing -- multi-signed letters carry more weight than ones signed by just one person.

If you can get several, or even more, friends, relatives and parishioners to all sign such a letter, maybe that would constitute a "stable group."

5:06 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Anonymous 10:43 a.m.,

You and the U.S. bishops ought to ask the Holy Father questions such as yours. He has DIRECTED that the Tridentine Mass be available to parishioners who seek it.

The Holy Father surely knows the duties of parish priests and has taken them into account.

As for "those desiring the Mass of the 1962 usage," the Vicar of Christ is the first among them.

The Web is filling up with ample resources for priests to learn the Latin and the rubrics of the Tridentine Mass. Low Masses require no choir, of course.

I know two men who say that as kids back in the 1950s they learned their altar boy responses in Latin in one week, and they were third and fourth graders.

Some pastors who cite "practical" reasons for denying the express request of the Pope and their parishioners will have unspoken ideological motives.

So many priests and bishops have proven their ideological bias by ripping the Tridentine Mass and by slandering and belittling everyone who loves it and longs for it.

5:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone notice that Mahony has been dead silent on the Motu Proprio since it's been issued?

7:40 AM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Anonymous 7:40 a.m.,

Yes, thanks for the observation.

Maybe it's just as well he has said nothing, judging by the statements some of the other ordinaries have made.

Hope I am wrong, but I think it will be an uphill climb to get many parishes in this Archdiocese to celebrate the Tridentine Mass.

12:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Q,
I don't think many of the Archdiocese's 290 parishes will have Mass according to the 1962 Roman Missal simply because the numbers requesting it will be relatively small. Rather, I think one "Tridentine" Mass will be for several parishes. Say, for example, there's a "Tridentine" Mass at St. Andrew's in Pasadena...that will probably be the focus for Pasadena, La Canada, Eagle Rock, Monrovia, Altadena, Sierra Madre and Arcadia. And one at St. Charles Borromeo in North Hollywood will be the focus for Burbank, Glendale, La Crescenta, Studio City and Tujunga, as well as North Hollywood, etc. (I arbitrarily picked the parishes--there may be no interest in either of them for all I know.)

Again, I believe this will based upon practicalities rather than ideology.

4:57 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Anonymous 4:57 p.m.,

Some pastors around the USA are already encouraging and preparing their flocks for the Tridentine Mass. Some pastors here will do that, too.

Pastors and people will be working together on this, and the result might pleasantly surprise us.

10:10 PM  

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