New CDF head says Mass at L.A. Cathedral
From THE TIDINGS online edition ...
Archbishop William Levada of San Francisco celebrated Mass at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels July 31, with concelebrants Cardinal Roger Mahony (back left) and Auxiliary Bishop Alex Salazar (right), among others. (THE TIDINGS photo)
Archbishop William Levada of San Francisco celebrated Mass at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels July 31, with concelebrants Cardinal Roger Mahony (back left) and Auxiliary Bishop Alex Salazar (right), among others. (THE TIDINGS photo)
It's a good thing that there are no liturgical abuses in L.A.
posted by Quintero at 9:12 AM
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*rests head on desk*
That's just depressing.
What is bizarre is the way the Tidings has cropped the photo to focus on the vessels.
But be of good cheer, Levada is head of CDF, not Congregation for Divine Worship. It's Arinze's job to take up this issue... It may be the principle of each person doing their own job, not someone else's.
Hey,
What's wrong? I'm having a glass of wine out of a decanter JUST like that right now.
John
Some say this is not that big of a deal, but I say if our Lords precious Body and Blood is not a big deal than we need to take a real close look at ourselves and access what we really believe. How hard is it just to use vessels that are in accord with Church teaching and fitting of our Lord. Now if those decanters and chalice are made of solid diamond then I will stand corrected.
Am I the only one who notices all the shady figures in the back praying orans?
Ministry of the Mop??
Quick, pass me a bucket somebody!
LA Catholic's next post is spot on - a great summary of the untenable position.
But before I leave this post, I must report on some research on Non Sum Dignus' "Ministry of the mop". Apparently it should read "Ministry of the M.O.P."
Now, I have consulted two important references: the Venerable's Own Terminological Folio (VOTF), and the Catholic Terminology Almanac (CTA) and they offer these alternative meanings for the MOP acronym:
Ministry of the..
1. Mahonian Orans Posture
2. Mockery of Papacy
3. Mahonian Order (of) Presiders
4. Marginalisation of Priesthood
5. Manifestations of Protestantism
It is unclear whether one, or perhaps all 5, apply here.
Another source suggests "Monkeys on Parade", which, upon reflection, I'm inclined to go with.
"Most of the abuses mentioned in Redemptionis Sacramentum do not pertain to the celebration of the Eucharist in our Archdiocese because of our many efforts to provide intensive and extensive training in proper liturgical norms and practice."
Whu...?
Re: The orans thing....
I remember when I was a kid in the seventies or early eighties, we were in fact taught to do the orans thing during the Our Father at Mass. Several months to a year later, we were told to move to the holding hands thing. We were never told that there was anything incorrect about orans, so most of us figured it was just another option. So many of us continued to alternate folded hands, orans hands, and holding hands, depending on what mood we were in. A lot of us figured orans was probably best, because we'd been told that was how the early Christians prayed.
It took twenty years and St. Blog's to inform me of the what and why of proper procedure, even though I read Catholic magazines and books often. So really, the people in the background are probably just as uninformed as I was.
But given what the shepherds are doing in the foreground, anything the sheep might do would be no surprise.
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