Dec 4, 2005

You gotta luv'm

A December 2, 2005 story in THE TIDINGS weightlessness the 20th anniversary of the L.A. Archdiocesan ministry with Gay and Lesbian Catholics. The article, which gushes in its praise of Always Our Children, fails to mention a key element in the document's authorship.

At a September 10, 1997 seminar sponsored by Father Robert Nugent and Sister Jeannie Gramick, which was held at St. Joseph's of Orange hospital in the Diocese of Orange, Father Nugent revealed at the lightly attended seminar, that in fact he was a co-author of an upcoming document on homosexuality which would provide a "real shot in the arm." Nugent also revealed that then MLGC head Father Peter Liuzzi and Father Jim Schnexnayder of the Diocese of Oakland were co-authors of the then highly secret document.

Ever cautious Nugent cautioned his audience from spreading the news about the upcoming document, citing that it had to be rushed through the NCCB before it could be closely scrutinized.

Both Nugent and Gramick were later formally censored by the Vatican for promoting homosexuality through their New Ways Ministry.

Much has happened since the "Ministry for Lesbian and Gay Catholics" was launched 20 years ago and Always Our Children was released. Liuzzi is now pastor of St. Agnes Parish in phoenix, Arizona, after leaving the community of Arleta in the San Fernando Valley. The Carmelite priest had been residing in a "house of formation" with confrere Father Dominic Savino who was ousted in March of 2002 as president of Crespi high school. Savino's position at Crespi was terminated after he had been accused of sexually molesting boys in the 1970's.

According the to neighbors, they were not aware of the fact that Liuzzi and Savino were priests. The largely Hispanic neighbors thought of them as a committed couple according to one source.

Schnexnayder continues with the National Association of Catholic Lesbian and Gay diocesan Ministries and Nugent is not knowingly advocating the views he was censored for.

What can you say? You gotta luv'm.


Blogger Rick Lugari said...

Always our heretics.

1:13 PM  
Blogger OrthodoxWarrior said...

You know what was so horrific about Always Our Children (AOC). It was rushed to the press without all the bishops meeting to discuss it. Bishop Fabian Bruskweitz was saying, Why someone would not want to let all the bishops decided is beyond him, but it seemed as though it were rushed to print.

3:52 PM  
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8:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I spent 25 years telling homosexuals that the church cares for you, that it wants you to have a part in it,'' Nugent said. ``How can I talk to them and convince them of that if I use language like evil, depravity and disorder?....Fr. Robert Nugent.
The concept of caring for someone may include honesty and being truthful with those you claim to love. I didn't think it was mandated that words like "depraity, evil, disorder" be used by all priests when discussing homosexuality. It sounds like he either rejects the Church's teaching on sex, or he is deceiving those he cares for.
I guess, in the long run, one excuse for a behavior is just as good as the other.

8:07 PM  
Blogger bobnd said...

Well to care you have to tell them that they are to live a homogenious lifestyle. They are no different than single people who fornicate. God has a plan and a place for everyone of them. Hell is an option just the same as heaven is.

11:56 PM  
Blogger skeetor said...

In my archdiocese of louisville, here in kentucky, it sounds like this letter is getting much the same "warm" reception. or perhaps lukewarm is a better description...

you decide.

11:45 AM  

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