May 26, 2007

The Tidings covers the Rosary Bowl

This week's issue of Cardinal Roger Mahony's Los Angeles archdiocesan newspaper, The Tidings, is not online yet. But have you seen the print edition?

The cover story is about the Rosary Bowl of last Saturday, May 19. The cover photo illustrates, probably unintentionally, the mindset of too many in the Church today. It shows four participants kneeling in prayer on the Rose Bowl field, with the throng in the background.

That is nice, as far as it goes. But that is all it shows. Not the participants with the Blessed Sacrament, not the participants with a statue of the Blessed Mother.

Surely these participants are good Catholics, and perhaps they were praying before the Blessed Sacrament or a statue of the Blessed Mother. But is a cover photo about the Rosary Bowl that does not show that -- that focuses on the flock but omits the Shepherd and His Mother -- a good idea?

Or does it illustrate "It's all about us," the mindset that we see in some contemporary "liberal" Catholic hymns?

Am I making a mountain out of a molehill? Well, the Rosary Bowl cover story inside The Tidings does not mention the Blessed Mother. That is a little odd, don't you think?

I was not able to attend the Rosary Bowl. If you were there, what was your impression? Did anyone mention sin and reparation? Our Lady of Fatima? The right to life? What was it like? Please let us know. Thank you in advance!


Anonymous Anonymous said...


I was told by someone who was there, I WOULD NOT GO, that senor Mahony gave his speech(homily) in Spanish. I wonder if he even looked at the flag that was flying over the Rose Bowl, THE UNITED STATES FLAG!

I would love to know what he said in his foreign language homily.

Kenneth M. Fisher

11:21 PM  
Blogger Jane said...

I went to the Rosary Bowl with my mother and another friend. We were all very disappointed. We thought that within the three hour time limit, we would say three sets of mysteries. But no.

There was lots of singing and entertainment. When Cardinal Mahony processed in with the Blessed Sacrament, almost everyone stood up and clapped. I was appalled.

When they finally did get around to the Rosary, it was done in a very odd manner. First there was a meditation on the mystery. Then someone got up and gave a testimony. Then they prayed the decade, in a different language for every Our Father and Hail Mary. We were told it would be said in about 59 different languages. To say it was distracting is an understatement. There was nothing prayerful about the atmosphere.

I didn't stay for the sermon. I didn't see any point in it.

3:27 PM  
Blogger Tom Wilson said...

My faithful and wonderful daughter found it utterly tedious, but did say "At least I'm in A.P. Spanish 4, so I could describe what was going on to my friends."

7:44 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Jane,

Thank you very much for telling about the Rosary Bowl. Sorry it wasn't nicer for you and your Mom and friend -- and for everyone.

Liberals cannot leave anything alone and do it the way it is supposed to be done. They have to twist it to suit their purposes.

How are we going to have unity in our Church if we all only speak our different languages? How are we even going to communicate? We have separate communities that do not know each other -- even separate parishes within parishes.

9:56 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Tom,

Thanks for telling about your daughter's time at the Rosary Bowl.

"Tedious" sums up a lot. The more trendy that liberals try to be, the more boring they become.

10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was there, those teenagers knelt the whole time the Eucharist was exposed. I would say it was around one and a half hours, the grass was cold, and they weren't allowed to bring towels to sit on. These teenagers are something we should all be proud of, they are a Eucharistic Teen Group, and the adore the Blessed Sacrament once or twice a week. There is hope while we have kids like these.

10:00 PM  
Blogger JimAroo said...

I am convinced that many of the "witnesses" here are reporting second hand information. I was there and it was an awesome event. The reverence for the Eucharist was magnificent. The pre speeches were well done and inspiring, yes Mary Mary Mary and pro life pro life pro life. The testimonials in the rosary were pertinent and moving and enhanced the our contemplation of the Glorious Mysteries.

Cardinal Mahony's homily was about 7 minutes in English then the same in Spanish. The two texts were as identical as any translation gets.
The homily begged us to be proud Catholics proclaiming our Faith everywhere. He said we had been timid too long. He strongly advocated praying the rosary in our cars, homes and workplaces.

His homily was followed by Benediction done perfectly.

The event was Eucharistic, Marian, and Catholic.

Yes there were a lot of Spanish speakers who attended. Maybe next time we can ban them and have maybe 10,000 instead of 50,000! Give me a break!

I realize that many are shocked and dismayed when they find out they belong to the universal church. Get over it!

6:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



Come see “Rudy Giuliani” in Drag!

For Immediate Release Contact: Ken Fisher 714-776-8855
June 7, 2007 Bob Cielnicky 714-964-1284

“Republican” Presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani
is speaking in Irvine this Sunday and will be met by protestors.

Irvine, California – Protestors upset with Rudy Giuliani’s anti-family public policies will greet the “Republican” Presidential candidate when he appears this Sunday in Irvine. The protest will be from 5 to 7 p.m. outside the Hyatt Regency Hotel, 17900 Jamboree Road, Irvine, CA 92614.

Among the protestors with signs will be “Rudy Giuliani” dressed in drag. Over the last decade, Giuliani has dressed in women’s clothes several times, including having his “breasts” fondled by Donald Trump. Giuliani told an audience that it was easy for him to dress up as a woman because “I already play a Republican, playing a Democrat, playing a Republican.” A DVD of Giuliani’s public drag-queen episodes as well as a media kit documenting his anti-family government policies will be available to media representatives.

Rudy video:

Propelled into national prominence by the 9/11 World Trade Center attack, Rudy Giuliani is running as a “Republican” candidate for President. “But Rudy Giuliani is out of step with the Republican Party Platform and its values,” said Bob Cielnicky, a local pro-family leader. “Mr. Giuliani’s policies and actions show he is pro-abortion, pro-homosexuality, and anti-Second Amendment rights.”

Rudy says:

“I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights.” Rudolph Giuliani, (CNN Inside Politics 12/2/99)

Rudy does:

“Charles Perkins, Giuliani’s spokesman, said Giuliani would continue [NYC] abortion funding despite his personal beliefs.” (Associated Press 7/7/89) Rudy funded NYC abortions 1994-2001. Rudy personally gave money to Planned Parenthood during the 1990s. (Alaska Report News, 5/8/07)

Rudy targets:

“This lawsuit is meant to end the free pass that the gun industry has so long enjoyed.” Mayor Giuliani, (when NYC filed suit against 24 major gun manufacturers and distributors, 6/20/00)

Rudy dreams:

“Mayor [Giuliani] signs bill securing rights, benefits for gay partners” (headline and article, Staten Island Advance, 7/8/98). Mayor Giuliani led the NYC Gay Pride Parade on 6/24/01.

Republicans Against Rudy Giuliani
P.O. Box 27021, Santa Ana, CA 92799

8:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Yes we belong to the Universal Church , so why wasn't the Universal Church language, Latin, spoken?

What flag was flying over the Rose Bowl? What Country is the Rose Bowl in?

Do you think that the Mexicans in Mexico would stand still for such an event where English is spoken. If you do, I will gladly sell you a bridge, cheap. In the words of my Mexican cousin from Chihuahua "if you tried that in Mexico, you would be lucky to get out of Mexico alive!"

By the way, my mother was born in Chih, Chih, Mexico.

Kenneth M. Fisher

8:26 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Anonymous 10 p.m.,

Thank you for telling about the devotion and sacrifices of the adorers at the Rosary Bowl.

As I said in my post, surely they are good Catholics. They are a fine example for all of us.

I directed my comments not at them but at the coverage by the Tidings.

A photo of the same adorers that also showed WHO they were adoring would have been much more powerful and inspiring; that was my point.

12:52 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Jimaroo,

Thanks for relaying your experience at the Rosary Bowl. Glad to hear about the good things.

You might want to reflect that none of our commenters said anything bad about who attended.

I'm sure every commenter is glad about everyone who was there -- and is fully aware that we are each in the Church Universal.

The first commenter's point was that a homily only in Spanish should not be given at such an Archdiocesan-wide event. Glad to hear from you that the homily was in English as well as Espanol.

When Catholics first prayed the Rosary here in Alta California, no doubt in 1542 by Cabrillo and his men and then in the late 18th century by the padres, explorers and settlers, they prayed it in Spanish and Latin.

Some pro-life friends of mine pray the Rosary at an abortion mill, and sometimes they pray a decade in Spanish and sometimes a decade in Latin. Spanish and Latin are part of our California heritage.

I like to pray the Hail Mary in Spanish and other languages. But we should always include Latin!

And whatever languages we use, we should be sure to include English and never to minimize it. If we want UNITY in our U.S. Church, English and Latin are unifiers.

English-speakers can learn some Spanish, and Spanish-speakers can learn English. Everyone should know their prayers in Latin, too. This way, everyone benefits.

1:55 PM  

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