Aug 7, 2005

L.A. Masses

Let's hear about how Mass was in YOUR L.A. parish this weekend.

Liturgical dancers incense the new worship space. TIDINGS photo.


Blogger Tony said...

Ah, ah, ah, ah... stayin' alive, stayin' alive... ah, ah, ah, ah... stayin' alive, stayin' alive... iiiiive... iiiive... iiiiive...

12:09 PM  
Anonymous Eli said...

I'm interested to know how many other Catholics "in the pews" notice cantors and other liturgical musicians doing things that show they're not really engaged in the action taking place -- unless, of course, they happen to be performing their music. I have noticed cantors and pianists flipping through music during the reading of the Gospel, chatting and drinking bottled water during Mass. I think it's easily obvious when a musician is more interested in performing than in serving the community's worship, and I submit that there are far too many performers who consider the sanctuary their stage. Anyone else?

12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are those goofy women carrying as they dance their way down the main aisle of the church? Are those baskets containing unconsecrated communion hosts?

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta love the incense burner behind the altar too. Is this a Catholic church?

1:30 PM  
Anonymous KC Monet said...

Obviously, as the caption says, they are carrying bowls of incense. And since when is incense out of place in a Catholic church?

C'mon, people, there is a difference between things that are matters of doctrine, and things that are merely matters of practice. Just because a liturgical element does not meet *your* personal taste does not mean that it cannot be a reverent expression of prayer and adoration.

And using words like "goofy" to describe another person's form of worship is as uncharitable as it is unkind.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On a positive note, the liturgical dancers are dressed instead of half-dressed.Please, someone tell me,why do we not see men doing this? Just wondering.

7:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


This is a dedication of Catholic worship space? I thought somebody had brought back a snapshot from Olympia about 600 B.C. ;)

8:51 PM  
Anonymous Philip said...

What are they doing incenseing the 'worship space'? Shouldn't a Priest be doing that? And also, Liturgical dancing was a heresy in like the 3rd century.

I think it is perfectly valid to confront and call this goofy... because it is!

This picture just goes to show how grossly the Mass is viewed there. Instead of mediating upon what is going on the Priest is simply watching them play with smoke.

At least there is the satisfaction of knowing that people like this are all old and will be out of the picture soon enough... well maybe not soon enough but eventually.

11:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KC Monet-

Actually, goofy was the most charitable word I could come up with.

BTW, there already is incense billowing from the hibachi sitting on the altar (which looks like something one would purchase from IKEA). And the containers held aloft by the oddly clad, short haired females appear to be wrapped in cloth. This is why I thought that perhaps they were transporting something other than burning coals. But perhaps the caption is correct after all.

It’s still gooooofy.

11:41 PM  
Blogger skeetor said...

wow, you keep suprising me with these pictures, and it frightens me. This just looks evil. not goofy but EVIL.

12:17 AM  
Anonymous Quintero said...


You're right ... spooky, not goofy.

12:40 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

KC Monet -- "Just because a liturgical element does not meet *your* personal taste does not mean that it cannot be a reverent expression of prayer and adoration."

It's not a matter of personal taste. It's a matter of giving what's properly due to God. I am sure you will agree that the most holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the making present of Jesus Christ upon our altars as a victim, to be offered to the Blessed Trinity, is not a suitable occasion for vaudeville entertainment. Liturgical dance is not only profane, it desacralizes the elements of the Mass.

3:00 AM  
Blogger Clayton said...

To answer someone's questions: there are places where the men have donned the leotards too. For example, St. Monica's in Santa Monica, on Holy Thursday. One guy and one girl sashayed up the main aisle during the processional - doing a kind of waltz or something.

The most disturbing thing was seeing them get ready in a side chapel at the rear of the church before hand - they were joined in a moment of silent prayer. For some reason, it was one of the creepiest things I had every encountered. Obviously they have good will. Which just goes to show you that good will isn't everything.

7:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that altar looks like something elijah might have destroyed back when he was battling the priests of baal.

8:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

look at the blank stone wall behind the altar. no crucifix no tabernacle,it just looks creepy and evil. do you think jesus really is there at all?

8:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Hey, gang, I just figured out what was missing...


And Dathan said to Korah, "Bind the sacrifice with cord!"

The Ten Commandments, film circa 1955.

11:50 AM  
Blogger Patrick said...

Clayton: You saw me mediating in the side chapel before my St. Monica aisle waltz? And you didn't say hello?

3:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are these pot smokin' mamas the same as the ones who appear here?:

3:54 PM  
Blogger Clayton said...


Hey, didn't want to interrupt that moment of divine intimacy.

4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are these two married?

4:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

... to each other?

6:04 AM  
Blogger Patrick said...

Clayton: Well, I 'preciate that. My dance partner and I DID feel we were being insensitive in not being a same-sex pair of liturgical dancers. As we know, only gay people -- esp those with dignity and a spirit of justice for all the anawim -- are capable of divine intimacy.

Speaking of St. Monica's and all things inclusive, Msgr. Torgerson for Cardinal!!!! Woohooooo!!!

9:19 AM  
Blogger Clayton said...


That really was heartless, making it a hetero venue. All that did was reinforce those negative stereotypes about the traditional family as the plan of God for human love. What partiarchal poppycock!

Also, don't you know the first principle of performance? Know your audience.

But a couple of your co-performers took care of the gay angle, when those two young women dance-enacted during the psalm about the suffering servant. It was part domestic-abuse awareness, part sado-masochistic exploration, part volatile lesbian relationship. It had so many different dimensions... I am sure it spoke to everyone somehow. I know it spoke to me: find the exit, and do it now!

6:39 AM  

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