Sweetheart, you're not going to get your beautiful liturgies with the lovely music you crave if you kick all the men with Same-Sex Attraction.
And you probably wouldn't have John Henry Newman, Gerard Manley Hopkins or St. Aloysius Gonzaga to venerate either. Ask Fr. Groeschel about the folklore about St. Aloysius. He's very upfront about it. Or you could just live in your dream world.
Oh that's right, Mack. SSA is a prerequisite to creating beautiful art. I guess all of us knuckledragging fathers should stay quiet in the back of the church and fight our constant urges to scratch and belch, which we would promtply insert into the liturgy if not held in check by ... you?
Mike
And seriously - sweetheart? At best, an annoying affectation. At worst, playing to stereotype.
I simply can't fathom this. Allowing men with SSA into the seminary would be like allowing a heterosexual man to join a convent. One can't even imagine being surrounded by persons to whom one is sexually attracted and trying to live a celibate life!
For heaven's sake, I'm a married man with a beautiful wife and I still struggle with the attractions I have to the women I see every day, whom I am not in close proximity to. And I am able to partake of the marital love which God gave us as a remedy for concupiscence.
This is insanity. I'm seriously mystified by the tone at Open Book.
Hey! Thanks very much for the kind reference and link!
I do think it's important to treat those who suffer from homosexual inclination with respect and charity. But, that does not mean they should be ordained.
I've been a bit, well, discouraged with the number of otherwise smart Catholics who can't seem to grasp the common-sense aspects of this.
Too bad you idiots can't answer the questions. What about priests of the past who've had SSA?
And by the way, priests spend most of their careers working with women, not men. In close proximity, in a world concerned with issues of great depth - one's spiritual life. Isn't that a tremendous temptation?
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Sweetheart, you're not going to get your beautiful liturgies with the lovely music you crave if you kick all the men with Same-Sex Attraction.
And you probably wouldn't have John Henry Newman, Gerard Manley Hopkins or St. Aloysius Gonzaga to venerate either. Ask Fr. Groeschel about the folklore about St. Aloysius. He's very upfront about it. Or you could just live in your dream world.
Sweetheart?
Oh that's right, Mack. SSA is a prerequisite to creating beautiful art. I guess all of us knuckledragging fathers should stay quiet in the back of the church and fight our constant urges to scratch and belch, which we would promtply insert into the liturgy if not held in check by ... you?
Mike
And seriously - sweetheart? At best, an annoying affectation. At worst, playing to stereotype.
I simply can't fathom this. Allowing men with SSA into the seminary would be like allowing a heterosexual man to join a convent. One can't even imagine being surrounded by persons to whom one is sexually attracted and trying to live a celibate life!
For heaven's sake, I'm a married man with a beautiful wife and I still struggle with the attractions I have to the women I see every day, whom I am not in close proximity to. And I am able to partake of the marital love which God gave us as a remedy for concupiscence.
This is insanity. I'm seriously mystified by the tone at Open Book.
Quintero: I thought I was the only one on the side of rational responses. Check out Seize the Dei.
The logic is:
Gay Behavior = really bad.
The Orientation Toward Gay Behavior = leave it alone, you homophobe!!!!!
Hey! Thanks very much for the kind reference and link!
I do think it's important to treat those who suffer from homosexual inclination with respect and charity. But, that does not mean they should be ordained.
I've been a bit, well, discouraged with the number of otherwise smart Catholics who can't seem to grasp the common-sense aspects of this.
b knotts and patrick -
The both of you have said it better than I ever could. Keep the faith.
Too bad you idiots can't answer the questions. What about priests of the past who've had SSA?
And by the way, priests spend most of their careers working with women, not men. In close proximity, in a world concerned with issues of great depth - one's spiritual life. Isn't that a tremendous temptation?
Actually, yes it is.
It's difficult to have a rational conversation with an anonymous idiot.
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