Nov 23, 2005

Connect the dots


Clayton Emmer posted a comment over at the Openbook blogger that is too important to be overlooked. The subject is the November 12 conference on human sexuality (pdf file) sponsored by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. Clayton was one of the attendees. He writes:

Just a taste of what the 30 or so catechists received in the presentation on Gay and Lesbian Catholics:

Dr. Bill Mochon (gay Catholic, aspiring permanent deacon for the archdiocese, and co-director of the Ministry to Gay and Lesbian Catholics) told us that the Bible has nothing to say about homosexuality. The OT passages were related to hospitality, and St. Paul's references were vestiges of the OT habit of avoiding all similarities with pagan practices.
I gather that Clayton is planning to post more details concerning this presentation. Until then, however, I cannot help but attempt to connect some of the dots, at least for myself.

The ludicrous assertion that the Old Testament passages about homosexuality are related to "hospitality" comes straight out of the DIGNITY playbook. DIGNITY considers itself a Catholic organization which is actively working to change the Church's clear and constant teaching that homosexual acts are always intrinsically disordered and gravely sinful.

In 1986, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a letter on the pastoral care of homosexual persons in which it was stated:

"All support should be withdrawn from any organizations which seek to undermine the teaching of the Church, which are ambiguous about it, or which neglect it entirely. Such support, or even the semblance of such support, [emphasis mine] can be gravely misinterpreted."
Yet the man to whom Cardinal Mahony has entrusted the delicate task of teaching catechists about human sexuality as well as co-direct the Archdiocese's M.L.G.C. ("Ministry to Lesbian and Catholics") is obviously a friend of DIGNITY. In fact, just two years ago, Dr. Mochon was one of the headliners at the DIGNITY convention in Las Vegas. Other speakers included Richard Sipe (darling of the "Keep the Faith, Change the Church" VOTF crowd); Brendan Fay (of ACT-UP New York infamy); and the ever recalcitrant Jesuit John McNeill (long-time 'gay' activist and DIGNITY member).

My question is: why is this man given a platform to teach catechists of the Archdiocese and minister to homosexual persons when only a short while ago he associated himself with an organization and with individuals who flagrantly opose the moral teachings of the Catholic Church?

Connect the dots.

This all fits in with what the LOS ANGELES TIMES reported regarding the Archdiocese's reaction to the soon to be released document on homosexuals and the priesthood:

A spokesman for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles said the instructions would have little, if any, effect on how seminaries in the Los Angeles area admit candidates.
In Mahony's L.A., despite whatever Rome might say, it's always business as usual.

Related posts:

Openly 'gay' in Mahony's L.A.
Mahony's openly 'gay' deacon designs new website
A tangled web


Blogger Venerable Aussie said...

Dignity conference in Las Vegas?

Time to party, girls!

3:21 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

An alternate title to this post could be:

Putting the Archdiocese to death with Dignity.

3:24 PM  
Blogger Iosephus said...

"Business as usual", indeed. The document seems good, but until the Holy See enforces against prelates like Mahoney, all the documents in the world won't mean anything.

All the news articles indicate that the homosexuals are running all over the Church on the West Coast. We have a discussion about some of them here.

4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this isn't blatant disobedience by the Cardinal to the Holy See, I don't know what is.

The curt dismissal of the document by Mr. Tamberg speaks volumes.

5:15 PM  
Blogger Fidei Defensor said...

Funny, when it come's to Paul's writings on the topic I seem to recall he begins Cor. 6:9 by saying "DO NOT BE DECIEVED!"

9:56 PM  
Anonymous Jude said...

So why don't you just come out and say it (no pun intended). Mahony's MLGC is Dignity dressed up in a thin disguise.

It has been that way since the early days of Fr. Liuzzi and nothing has changed.

Every new day the depth and breadth of the rot in Mahony's Archdiocese becomes more exposed.

Keep up the good work.

11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And can't it also be said that
one can connect the dots beyond L.A. ro the neighboring dioceses...
in fact, to all of "Mahony Land"?

9:22 AM  
Blogger cliff petsch said...

Mahonys diocese more resembles Sodom and Gamorah than the Catholic Church.

10:11 AM  
Blogger bobnd said...

Actually Dignity is right on the hospitality refrence, there are gays(Fr's Reiske and Winkel's type)then there are the ones who are a priest and an active queen. Then there are gays that are one with the father in a homogenious lifestyle.(Majority are in this group)Dignity itself should be put to death. I have the scriptural refrences. My copy is at home and can't get another because the priest who gave me that copy died.

4:55 PM  
Blogger Mike Downey said...

Your assessment of Dr. Mochon is inaccurate and betrays your attempt to advocate for the true church. First, Dr. Mochon is a man of keen theological insight. His intellect is one that continues to bless the church in Los Angeles. Second, Dr. Mochon was a speaker at the program because he does not politicize the faith. Third, he was a major asset at the Bishop's Conference of June 2002, in Dallas, TX. His voice proved to be prophetic, calm, and on point. Fourth, and this is the part that I like-he does not identify as a gay man. He is a celibate male who continues to live his vocation with earnest dedication. If only there would be more such as he. Going forward, you may want to get your facts straight. Otherwise, you undermine your own efforts with such displays of unchristian, hypocritical, and insipid remarks.
Mike D.

9:45 PM  
Blogger BookMan said...

I found a fascinating article and book review on the net that you might want to reprint or review this book yourself. It is called “That Undeniable Longing – My Road to and from the Priesthood” by Mark Tedesco.
Take a look. I think the readers will enjoy it as much as I did.

(I found the book at the publisher’s website:

Mark Nemetz

Here are some parts of this review:

This book tells the life of a Priest. A life filled with Latin, filled with lambs, filled with G-d. It is a life of celibacy, of poverty, of charity. It is a life filled with listening to the woes of the people, their sins, and giving the forgiveness through Jesus Christ, The Lord. This is the life of a man who has dedicated himself to G-d and the church, to the people, to His flock. After nearly 8 plus years, countless hours of prayer, devotion, and spiritual struggle. After a four-year degree, a post-graduate degree, many sleepless nights filled with fear and dread. This is a Priest. This is the life of a Priest. This is the life of a Gay Priest!

As a Priest-to-be, Mark struggled with not only his family and his faith, but also with his life as a closeted gay man. In his book That Undeniable Longing: My Road to AND from THE Priesthood, Mark Tedesco recounts his life, well roughly ten years of his life, of going from faithful Catholic parishioner to being a full-fledge Catholic Priest... and then back to being a "normal" Joe.

This book captivates the reader from page one when he wonders if questioning life and your past is a side-effect of being middle-aged. "How did I arrive at this point? Could I ever have imagined, long ago on a winter day in Rome, that I would find myself on this new path, my dreams not shattered, but transformed. And that elusive, relentless desire, for happiness - where is it leading me?" He sparks our imagination, at least those of us who are 30-something and older, of the days gone by. He makes us think about our past, and if we would have done anything differently. He makes us think about the lessons, the little "-isms" we have learned and discovered.

The life of a Priest is hard, as we learn. It is a life filled with monotony, with repetitiveness, and without much spontaneity. It is a life filled with being the moral grounding of a faith that is large and far reaching. To influence the lives of others is a path that many are not willing to take. Young Mark discovers this and so much more on his little journey known as the priesthood. From being an oblate in a monastery in the hills of Italy, to being kicked out, and then once again accepted by another seminary, Mark's adventure both captivates and invigorates you in addition to upsetting and angering you. In light of all the controversy surrounding Priests and sexual abuse, it is no wonder that a gay man not only questions his faith in the Church, but also in himself and his relationship with the Almighty above. The journey of understanding is not an easy one, which those who have had time to live a little bit more on this planet know all to well. The life of a gay man, and the struggle to not only accept yourself, but to reject others non-acceptance is also a journey filled with fears, tears and personal struggle. To go through both is killer, but one journey "Father Mark" accomplished.

This book is filled with controversy, with personal struggle not only with self-acceptance and faith, but also with the Catholic World. You will laugh, you will possibly cry, and you will most undoubtedly come to learn from the struggle both without and within. This book is quite well written and addicting from page one. I could not put it down and read it from cover to cover. It made me examine my faith and the faith of others. It made me reminisce about coming to terms with being a person of faith, being a gay man, and being a gay man with faith.

Discover more about the priesthood, about man, about faith, about life, about your life in this book. I did, and I know you will too!

9:45 AM  

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