Lenten picket a month from today
On this Ash Wednesday 2006, a good Lenten resolution is to join the April 1 picket of this year's Religious Education Congress at the Anaheim Convention Center.
As noted here before, the REC (pronounced "wreck") features some good speakers every year but also really bad ones: even anti-lifers and dissenters. They deceive the well-meaning attendees, who return home and spread the errors they have picked up.
One of the worst speakers this year is Father Richard Sparks. Concerned Roman Catholics of America (CRCOA) says that at the REC in 2002, he uttered evil speculations about the Son of God and St. Mary Magdalene, and about the Blessed Mother and St. Joseph. CRCOA adds that in Berkeley that same year, he said, "I believe in freedom. I believe in responsibility. And so I am not anti-choice."
The picketing alerts REC attendees to the dissenters. So mark your calendar now. The date of the picket is Saturday, April 1. For the exact time and other details, phone/fax CRCOA's Kenneth M. Fisher at (714)491-2284 or e-mail them at: crcoa@dslextreme.com
The late, great Jesuit Father John Hardon said that unless we solve the catechetical problem, the Church in the United States will disappear like the ancient Churches of North Africa and Asia Minor. Let's not let that happen here!
As noted here before, the REC (pronounced "wreck") features some good speakers every year but also really bad ones: even anti-lifers and dissenters. They deceive the well-meaning attendees, who return home and spread the errors they have picked up.
One of the worst speakers this year is Father Richard Sparks. Concerned Roman Catholics of America (CRCOA) says that at the REC in 2002, he uttered evil speculations about the Son of God and St. Mary Magdalene, and about the Blessed Mother and St. Joseph. CRCOA adds that in Berkeley that same year, he said, "I believe in freedom. I believe in responsibility. And so I am not anti-choice."
The picketing alerts REC attendees to the dissenters. So mark your calendar now. The date of the picket is Saturday, April 1. For the exact time and other details, phone/fax CRCOA's Kenneth M. Fisher at (714)491-2284 or e-mail them at: crcoa@dslextreme.com
The late, great Jesuit Father John Hardon said that unless we solve the catechetical problem, the Church in the United States will disappear like the ancient Churches of North Africa and Asia Minor. Let's not let that happen here!
posted by Quintero at 8:59 PM
25 Comments:
Q - I wonder if it's too late to gather up some people to go as attendees and group blog the event?
Mike
Quintero,
not one comment this ash wednsday on Cardinal Mahoneys declared war on the US Gov?
Alice...I was wondering...why there wasn't any comments on the US Gov's declared war on the working class...any thoughts?
Are illegal immigrants a working class?
actually they are? and i would assume they'd be just as entitled to God's grace as any God fearin' US citizen.....or do we have a monopoly on that? thanks in advance for clarification.
last time I checked, God's grace was free- or is that something the good cardinal is now using as a tax deduction, he is so materially based now a days. Even going so far as to correlate the Sacred Host as to a material good given by a food bank.
i'm all for attacking the "good" Cardinal for his role in the priestly scandal, liturgical abuses, and dissent from the magisterium etc. i'm just not sure what is meant by his "declaring war on the US gov" or bringing illegal immigrants into it. i wouldn't say the US government is in harmony with Catholic teachings or Christian virtue.....outside of the hot button issue of abortion. as far as illegal immigrants go they are entitled to human dignity and the sacraments.....for his numerous faults (catalogued ad nauseum) on this blog you certainly can't blame Mahony for sticking up for and seeking rights and protections for illegal immigrants....or can you?
"I am just not sure what is meant by bringing... illegal immigrants into it."..."entitled to human dignity and the sacraments" ... "sticking up for rights and protections"
Sticking up for rights and protections is the duty of elected officials and political bodies and an informed politic. The laws the cardinal is protesting have nothing to do with human dignity and the sacraments, as for as your uncertainty of bringing illegal immigrants into it, you would have to ask the cardinal yourself. I also question his reasons.
Personally, I am of the opinion this is a way for the cardinal to shore up his flaging popularity with the masses he represents, not to be ignored is the instigator of this fast. See the past tidings newspaper for feb 10 I believe. It showcases a young male latino, sponsered by Bishop Gabino Zavala and his hunger strike for immigration rights. The boy appears to be transgender, is particularly repellant and is crying. Nothing appears to touch the heart of our cardinal then the tears of a frustrated fag.
uuhhh....okay alice...i'm glad i stuck around online and got a chance to see your last post. that was a piece of work! "frustrated fag"....what kind of talk is that? we certainly know what the church teaches about homosexuality....but, i'm not sure how the church feels about terms like "frustrated fag"...good luck with that one!
we'll just have to wait for the wisdom of Q and K-Fish later on this evening i suppose.
PS- so there is a difference in responsibilities etc...between elected officials/political bodies and the clergy?
i think rather than be so angry...just move to Ave Maria, Florida.....now all those that share your "opinions" can put your money where your mouth is. i think the "frustrated fags" will be few and far between there...and you can have a place that represents your values alone.....everybody wins!
Actually this conversation is idiotic. Mahony directed his flock IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO HOLY SCRIPTURE AND JESUS'S OWN TEACHING TO DISOBEY THE LAW.
Not to defend rights or protections (as you very well know "anonymous")
If you want to defend the "working class" why don't you work to protect THEM from so much of their tax dollars going to fund medical care and police services for illegal immigrants? IT'S BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE WORKING CLASS.
Alice may not see what you're up to but it's really obvious to me.
Govt.'s war on the working class. Nice troll-
Dave...good post...but you forgot to mention all the tax dollars being wasted in Iraq as well.
Dave,
There is no absolute obligation to obey every law. If a hungry Catholic approaches a priest and asks for food, why should that priest be required to determine his immigration status? Doesn't the priest have an obligation, as a priest, to serve his fellow man?
Our first obligation as Catholics is to the Church, not to any secular authority. By your reasoning, Catholic hospitals could be legitimately forced to offer surgical abortions, contracpetives, and "emergency contraceptives."
Putting aside the threat posed by criminals and terrorists, how can we as Catholics justify turning our backs on immigrants seeking work to feed their families so that people lucky enough to be born in this country can have a bigger slice of the pie? Why are your loyalties to the so-called "working class" of Americans only?
I am all for immigration controls for national security and crime prevention reasons, but why should we exclude people looking for a job?
Mike
and furthermore..http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=42763
Hey Andrew.....I was just reading about an old equivalent of a "blog" from the 15th century and the Native Americans had the same thought......interesting how these things are cyclical.
anon you are being such a troll...
*boring*
Quote:
"immigrants seeking work to feed their families so that people lucky enough to be born in this country can have a bigger slice of the pie?"
Geez I had no idea they went through all that just to help ME...
now I've changed my mind completely
*Thanx for the insight*
Hey Q, do you know if someone has put out a list this year of who's speaking at REC, plus any documented instances of heterodox statements on the speakers' behalf? If I'm going to go protest, I'd like to do it on the count of more than just hearsay.
Dear ebrown,
Thanks for asking! Hope you can attend.
At www.la-archdiocese.org, the Archdiocesan website lists all the speakers. Search on "RE Congress" and you will find the names.
As for the heterodoxy of some speakers, go to www.crcoa.com and you will find evidence about them from past "Congresses" and other events. You can also google their names and find out about them.
Dear Mike,
That's a great idea about group-blogging the event. Maybe everyone can bring a friend.
People are needed to reach as many of the thousands of entering and exiting attendees as possible, via handouts and via picket signs.
Dear Alice,
I'll comment in a future post.
Actually trolls need to be rebuked and held in contempt.
Remember Sal I'm only to be venerated and not worshipped-
Dave,
I think you misunderstood a poorly written sentence of mine. I wasn't saying that immigrants who come here help you - but that it's tough to justify not allowing immigrants to come here when you're justification is: we don't want to share our wealth and jobs.
Mike
Oh Ken... you sow the seeds of your own undoing...
Yes the church indeed should be focussed on saving souls: not feeding, clothing, sheltering and finding jobs for people who are in large part inspired to come here illegally due to the flood of services they will receive here.
Middle-class Mexicans in Mexico can't provide for themselves as well as the social safety net provides here. Why are all the L.A. hospitals closing, making it impossible for poor citizens to receive adequate medical care? Because of all the free services illegals receive here.
They'd have to be idiots to stay in Mexico.
California spends more on Medicaid than education. And the burden is increasing on OUR poor citizens... which is why when people start spewing nonsense about the working class I just laugh and say nice try, but you don't know them and you're by no means their friend.
Dave you're a moron....what you have done to the least of me...etc. etc. etc.
I heard that a survey was done and even the illegals here support the wall built because they are competing for the same goods.
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