Jun 4, 2006

"We currently do not have permission"

"Progressive" Catholics disobey, get around or seek loopholes in the Holy See's orders whenever they want to, but they turn around and demand that we obey their own orders 100% -- as with kneeling.

In the days before the okay came for girl altar boys, various parishes in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles used them anyway; and Cardinal Mahony not only did not stop that, he allowed it, saying, "We currently do not have permission [but we are going to continue with this.]" [Translation: We are forbidden to, but..."]

"We currently do not have permission." Imagine if orthodox Catholics tried to get away with that one versus their bishop! They might even be accused of committing mortal sin!


Anonymous DAve said...

Bullseye again, Q

11:43 PM  
Blogger Kenneth Fisher, Founder & CRCOA said...

CROCA Activity Schedule for June 14-17 Bishops’ Meeting
Milenium Biltmore Hotel, Los Angeles, CA

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Friday at Cathedral, Demonstration 4:30 PM to 6:30 PM

Saturday, June 17, Volunteer day for those who can, help us give
the Bishops a send off at the Hotel 9:00 AM to 2:00 PM. We will
supply materials.

All day Thursday and the first 30 minutes Friday will be public
sessions and we encourage true Catholics to be present and
vociferous during this time. We are certain that SNAP and VOTF
will try to dominate this time, and we must be prepared to counter


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12:14 AM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Dave,

Thanks for the kind words.

1:02 PM  
Blogger Patrick Kinsale said...

Can someone please give Ken Fisher a lesson on appropriate posting of comments on weblogs? Short and to the point discussed, please, not just cut-and-paste spam emails advertising pre-paid legal services. I'm sure his intentions are noble, but it distracts from any messages he tries to convey.

9:19 AM  
Blogger hilary said...

I am beginning to think that the condition of the faith in the diocese of Orange is one of those places where a good case can be made that believing Catholics have an obligation not to attend any parish of the diocese and to fulfill their Sunday obligation at the SSPX chapel.

I am not generally either fer or agin the SSPX but this seems to be one of those cases where Ecclesia does indeed Suppliet and any defects in communion suffered by the SSPX as a whole are considerably less than those currently being actively promoted by the men in black who have been left in charge by our late pontiff.

At some point it becomes a matter of the salvation of souls to avoid the "official" Church and do whatever must be done.

10:23 AM  
Anonymous Xochilt said...

Yes, Patrick, I agree.

Ken Fisher, get a grip.

6:37 PM  
Anonymous David C said...

Hilary, I have friends who are faithful priests in the diocese of Orange. Granted, they're always fighting their leadership, but at least their parishoners get orthodox practices.

The younger priests are more faithful. Time is on our side.

11:00 PM  
Blogger Patrick Kinsale said...


And there are pockets of orthodoxy, such as St. Michael's Abbey north of Lake Forest and east of Orange.

More info:

8:03 AM  
Blogger Kenneth Fisher, Founder & CRCOA said...


My good friend, the late Fr. Charles Fiore, taught Moral Theology at the Angelicum for many years.

Before he died, I asked him about attending a Tridentine Mass at one of the so called Independent Chapels. He told me that in Canon Law there is an allowance for times of Necessity, and he further told me "if these are not certainly times of necessity, what it!"

The truth of this is that Most of the American Bishops, especially the ones that refuse to abide by "Ecclesia Dei" are de-facto in Schism as were the English Bishops under Archbishop Cranmer!

God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman, Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.

P.S. I normally deltete my personal business from Blogs, but the last time I forgot to.

12:40 AM  

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