Apr 10, 2006

"Positive developments?"

Remember when Cardinal Mahony said his closing of St. John's College Seminary was a positive development?

And remember the dissenter who said that the great exodus from the Church in recent decades has been a good thing because what we have left is "a thinking Church?" (If he thinks he is an example of "a thinking Church," he should think again.)

Well, those two abysmal statements came to mind last week, prompted by a small but tragic story in USA Today (I have the hard copy of the story, but did not date it).

The story said that "Bishop" Gilbert Thompson, founder of the Boston-area 7,000-member evangelical Jubilee Christian Church in Mattapan, is buying "a closed Roman Catholic parish in Stoughton" to "serve about 2,000 congregants in the Brockton and Stoughton areas." (The price is $3 million, by the way.)

Will we be seeing "positive developments" such as that in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles? Does Cardinal Roger "560 Lawsuits" Mahony have a potential closures-and-selloff plan worked out already? We should be telling him right now that we do not want ANY of our Catholic churches, schools or other facilities closed and sold.

Except for the Yellow Armadillo. Now, that would be a truly positive development.


Blogger Clayton said...

Speaking of buying and selling church property, I heard from someone last night that the selling of the college seminary in Camarillo has run into a few snags. Apparently there was some deed/in its history saying that the property could not be used for anything but Catholic education... which could get in the way of the sale. Have you heard anything about this?

4:34 AM  
Blogger Karen said...

The problem with selling the big yellow blob is, who on earth would buy it?

6:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


It was designed to be sold off to the Scientologists.

It already looks like a spaceship.

They've got the bucks.


9:23 AM  
Anonymous dave said...


The more modern ones are close to empty on Sundays anyways...
Our Lady of Lourdes in Montclair... a buncha words like dei and domini and the AISLES were full of people... go figure.
Then the priest sez if you have missed a Mass or have a civil marriage or are shacking up don't even threaten the state of your mortal soul with sacrelige by taking communion... woohoo

11:22 AM  
Anonymous Barbara said...

The purchase of Our Lady of the Rosary Church, by the Jubilee Christian Church, was discussed over at Angelqueen:


God bless you

2:47 PM  
Anonymous Jonathan said...


HAPPY FIRST ANNIVERSARY! Your first post was April 12, 2005.

This is a great blog. I am spreading the word.

12:19 AM  
Anonymous FdS said...

This piece seems to assess the state of our Archdiocese rather well:


11:07 AM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Jonathan,

Thanks very much for remembering! That's kind of you.

Felicidades to you, too, and to all of us here in this little cyber-corner of L.A. who seek to do our best for Catholic truth and against the dissenters.

6:00 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Clayton,

Thank you for the hot tip. I will "make inquiries."

Incidentally, correct me if I am wrong about this, but I believe that years ago the Archdiocese sold off the seminary's original Gutenberg Bible and other items, contrary to Mrs. Doheny's will.

6:07 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Karen and Kale,

People suggest lots of uses. What if we could un-wreckovate it and turn it into a recognizably Catholic cathedral? (True, that would take a lot of work.)

Or, failing that, if the Cardinal ever got another helicopter, the Cathedral, once de-consecrated, might make a good hangar.

6:14 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Dave,

Thanks for the news!

6:16 PM  
Blogger Quintero said...

Dear Barbara,

Thanks very much for the link, and God bless you, too.

6:17 PM  
Blogger Former Altar Boy said...

One plus to these sell-offs is some of them are being purchased by SSPX and kept for the traditional Latin Mass. Now if the SSPX can just get themselves regularized with Rome, we'll have saved some of our magnificient old churches.

Also, I thought one of Phoney's excuses for needing to build that monstrosity to his ego was St. Vibiana's was too damaged by some earthquake and it would be too expensive to fix or retrofit and yet I understand it is still being used or about to be sold for someone else to use. What's the real story?

8:19 PM  
Blogger Kenneth Fisher, Founder & CRCOA said...


I have a better suggestion, sell the Rogmahal to a Convention Conglomerate and use the money to improve St. Basil (the Cathedral that Cardinal Mcyntire built, that's right, we already had a Cathedral,or build a real Catholic Cathedral!

The RogMahal would make a perfect Convention Center, in fact that is mostly what it is now! To see pictures of this monstrosity, go to www.crcoa.com.

Former Altar Boy,

Fat chance, the modernist will never sell property to a tradition Catholic group or Order. They would rater sell it to Masons, heretics, or for commerical use(St. Vibianas is now a shopping Mall) than to traditional Catholics!

By the way, it has now been revealed that the real cost for restoring St. Vibiana's was less than 20 MILLION!

God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman, Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.

12:31 AM  

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